2011年08月06日

writing systems and cultural identities were mixed in Central Europe

Petr Kazil wrote:
Among the many hypotheses this one might be testable. But this would require a big detour through secondary literature. There might exist some books on vanished European (sub-)cultures. Two were discussed extensively - the Cathars and the Bogomils. Another example is the Coptic language. However I can't think of an isolated cultural center that would produce such a mature artifact - Spanish Islamists, Greek Byzantine Monks? The problem becomes even worse if you follow the hypohesis that the VMs is not an "elite" artifact but a "popular" artifact - then it must have been a large subculture. Still I would be very interested if
someone produced a list of vanished European subcultures and their dates.

From: "Rafal T. Prinke"
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:20:36 +0200

But note that on the whole it does not seem to be an original creation - rather a compilation (perhaps with some modifications) of general knowledge. I have just read an article (in Polish) about a newly discovered 17th c. manuscript of an alchemical treatise which was written partly in Latin, partly in Polish, and partly in Armeno-Kiptchak language using the Armenian alphabet. The author was a Pole of Armenian descent living in Lvov, which had a sizable Armenian community. It has no resemblance to the VMS - but shows how languages, writing systems and cultural identities were mixed in Central Europe.
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2011年08月03日

Baresch news report

From: "Rafal T. Prinke"
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 23:42:56 +0200

I have just come back from Warsaw where - having some time - I went to a library which I had known had what is the best monograph on Marci, namely:

Servit, Z.: Jan Marek Marci z Kronlandu, zapomenuty zakladatel fyziologie a mediciny, Bratislava 1989

I had little time - and the book has no index - but paging through it I have spotted some interesting information, which I am immediately passing on to the Group:

1. On p. 49 there is a very interesting mention of our (and Marci's) elusive friend: "For many years Marek's close friend was Jiri Bares (Georgius Barschius), experienced chemist (rerum chemicarum peritissimus), from whom Jan Marek often obtained valuable information in this field. Bares after his death gave to Marci the collection of his notes and observations, as well as his chemical library. Marek wrote about it in his _Philosophia vetus restituta_ (p. 280)."

The book in question is:

[Pan ek Pantôn] seu philosophia vetus restituta. Prague, Typis Academici, 1662

Perhaps there is a copy in the British Library or other available to someone - it is just a matter of checking page 280 (alternatively, a copy can be bought on-line at US$ 4,800)?

It seems to indicate that Baresch had already died by 1662. And that he was indeed a real person...

2. On p. 52 there is something about VMS - but it appears that Servit knew only what was in Newbold (whom he quotes) and does not link Bares to VMS. He also says that Marci's valuable library was inherited by his son Jan Ludwik but it is not known what happened to it later. "It is only known that a year before his death he sent to Athanasius Kircher one of the most valuable manuscripts from this collection, the so called _Cabalistic manuscript of Roger Bacon_. As it appears from the letter by G. A. Kinner to Athanasius Kircher of 5 January 1667 (Carteggio Kircher, Roma, VIII, fol. 150), it was probably in 1666." [and then a few lines based on Newbold, including a suggestion that Marci may have obtained it via his brother-in-law Dionisius Misseroni]

I can't remember if we have the above letter by Kinner?

3. On p. 57 Servit says that at the end of his life Marci has problems with sight and memory (as he says in one of his letters - "corruptis oculis et infirmata memoria"). "Still in 1665 or at the beginning of 1666 he sends the Roger Bacon manuscript to Kircher with a cover letter which does not exhibit any intelectual deficiencies. Comparing it to other of his letters, it even seems that he wrote it in his own hand (but it could only be proved with proper graphological analysis). At the end of 1666 he made his last will but could not sign it because of weak sight." [it was signed only by 3 witnesses - 2 professors of the medical faculty and one lawyer]
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