2010年12月26日

同じ植物の繰り返し

2001/3/5, posted by Gabriel Landini

I did, most repetitions are with the recipes section:
f1v # Same plant as f102r1[3,2] ? (Stolfi)
f18v # Same plant as f102r2[3,1] ? (FSG, Stolfi)
f19r # Same plant as f102v1[2,2] ? (Stolfi)
f23r # Same plant as f102r2[3,1] (FSG, GL)
f32v # Same plant as f102r2[1,2] ? (FSG, Stolfi)
f37v # Same plant as f102r1[3,1] ? (Stolfi)
f39r # Same plant as f95r2 ? (Stolfi)
f47v # Same plant as f102r2[1,1] ? (Petersen)
f48r # Same plant as f89v2[3,4] ? (Stolfi)
f47v # Same plant as f89v[1,4] ? (Stolfi)
f90v1 # Same plant as f100r[1,3] ? (Stolfi)
f96v # Same plant as f99r[4,1] ? (GL)
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2010年12月15日

繰り返しのラベル

1997/11/18, posted by Jorge Stolfi

Although Voynichese is fairly repetitive, there are remarkably few repetitions among this list. Here are all I could find (in EVA encoding):

dokor <f100v.T.1;C> {pharma}
dokor <f101v1.R1.1;C> {pharma}

otarar <f100v.T.2;C> {pharma}
otarar <f101v1.R1.3;C> {pharma}

odor <f100v.M.4;C> {pharma}
odor <f101v1.R2.4;C> {pharma}

olkor <f100v.M.2;C> {pharma}
olkor <f101v1.R2.2;C> {pharma}


okal <f67r2.L;Z> {astro, moon & circles; "sun"?}
okal <f72r2.S.12;K> {zodiac, gemini, stars}{was <f72r2.12A;K>}
okal <f72r2.S.14;K> {zodiac, gemini, stars}{was <f72r2.14A;K>}

okaly <f70v2.S1.3;C> {zodiac, pisces, btw outer stars; K:okala}
okaly <f72r2.S.13;K> {zodiac, gemini, stars}{was <f72r2.13A;K>}
okaly <f72r2.S.21;K> {zodiac, gemini, stars}{was <f72r2.21A;K>}

okary <f89v2.m.1;L> {pharma}
okary <f70v2.S1.17;C> {zodiac, pisces, btw outer stars; K:ykary}

okeey.ary <f72r1.S.4;K> {zodiac, taurus dk, stars}{was <f72r1.04A;K>}
okeey.ary <f72r2.S.15;K> {zodiac, gemini, stars}{was <f72r2.15A;K>}

okshdchas <f89r2.b.1;K> {pharma; L:okan-yorain}{was <f89v.45A;K>}
okshdchas <f89r2.m2.6;L> {pharma}


otaiin.otain <f72r1.S.13;K> {zodiac, taurus dk, stars}{was <f72r1.13A;K>}
otaiin <f71v.S1.6;K> {zodiac, taurus lt, btw outer stars}{was <f71v.11A;K>}


otal.ypsharal <f70v1.S.15;K> {zodiac, aries dk, btw inner stars}{was <f70v1.15A;K>}
otal <f72r2.S.1;K> {zodiac, gemini, stars}{was <f72r2.01A;K>}


otalaiin <f70v1.S.2;K> {zodiac, aries dk, btw outer stars}{was <f70v1.02A;K>}
otalaiin <f71v.S2.3;K> {zodiac, taurus lt, btw inner stars}{was <f71v.03A;K>}

otaldy <f67r1.S.1;C> {astro, moon & circles, circle sectors}
otaldy <f88r.m.1;L> {pharma, plant; K:otaly}
otaldy <f70v2.S1.12;K> {zodiac, pisces, btw outer stars}{was <f70v2.26A;K>}

otaly <f88r.m.1;K> {pharma, plant; L:otaldy}{was <f88r.05A;K>}
otaly <f88r.t.6;L> {pharma, plant}
otaly <f70v1.S.10;K> {zodiac, aries dk, btw inner stars}{was <f70v1.10A;K>}
otaly <f70v2.S1.10;K> {zodiac, pisces, btw outer stars}{was <f70v2.24A;K>}

otear.araydy <f70v1.S.5;K> {zodiac, aries dk, btw outer stars}{was <f70v1.05A;K>}
otear <f100r.t.3;K> {pharma}{was <f100r.17A;K>}

otoram <f88r.b.2;L> {pharma, plant; K:otor.am}
otoram <f88v.m.1;K> {pharma; L:otorad}{was <f88v.17A;K>}


The rarity of repetitions is encouraging. Note that some of them seem to be transcription errors. Also, there seem to be relatively few repetitions spanning different sections.

The first four entries of this list are intriguing: { dokor, otarar, odor, olkor } appear on page f100.v and then again on page f101v1, in slightly different order. Could they be transcription errors?

The thrice-repeated label "okal" was identified by Rene as the name of the Sun in Voynichese.
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2010年12月04日

ヴォイニッチの中の植物

1996/7/26, posted by Rene Zandbergen

I've been talking about plant drawings several times now without quoting the folios they appear on. This should make up for that:

f2v: my 'Nymphoides Peltata' (German: Sumpfrose; English: not the banana plant mentioned on the Web but a close relative. Not a water lilly either *).
f8r: Hedera (Ivy).
f11v: the 'Pineapple' mentioned at the Birmingham meeting f39r and f95r2 are the same plant (flowers) IMHO. I might even be (mis)led to believe these are crocusses (crocei?? whatever).
f96v and the botttom plant on f99r are obviously the same plant, and f17v seems similar too. Jim: I gather your wife has seen more drawing of Dracontea/Serpentaria than most people. Could this be what these drawings are? How about one of the leaves on f42r?

1996/12/6, posted by Dennis Stallings

f21v - Petersen says salvia. That's common here and it doesn't resemble this.

f22v - Looks like milkweed.

f34v - Looks like lotus flowers.

f40v - Looks like calendula, roots like radishes. Petersen says Jerusalem artichoke (helianthus tuberosus). That is a sunflower that grows here. We have pictures, and it doesn't look like that. The center is not raised, and the petals are not like the sunflower. The roots should look more knotted, less bulb-like.

f50r - Looks like lotus pod or protea.

f50v - Also protea.

f85/86 - Newbold's ovum. We say it's the Colosseum in Rome, with sewer pipes out the southeast side. ;-)

f89v1 - Left center drawing, root looks like mermaid, person.

f90v - Root looks like cat body, plant head!

f93r - Brumbaugh's "sunflower". Petersen also says coxcomb, and we think it looks more like coxcomb, Celasia argentea 'Cristata'.

f100r - 3rd row, 1st on left, leaf on soapberry tree. Brumbaugh's "pepper" could be a pepper; there are many varieties of pepper.

f100v - 1st row, 2nd from left, looks like human lung!

f102r - (Jim's p. 229) - Drawing on bottom right looks like elephant ear. The one next to the left looks like white radish.

f102r - (Jim's p. 233) - The drawing on 3rd row, 4th left, Petersen's #231, looks like parsnip, pod like okra.
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